Fox Shox - Sea Otter 2011

Apr 13, 2010 at 23:00

Update Wed 10:15 am: Added details and spec lists for all 180, 160, 40 products ( 13 total products )
* pricing to follow
Here is a quick preview of the new Fox Shox 2011 suspension lineup.

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	Fox Racing 2011 36 180 Float FIT RLC	Fox Racing 2011 36 180 Float R	Fox Racing 2011 36 180 Talas FIT RLC	Fox Racing 2011 36 180 Talas R
Price	$0	$0	$0	$0
Weight	2350 g	2380 g	2430 g	2470 g
Color Options	White	White	Black Diamond	Black Diamond
Travel	180 mm	180 mm	180 mm	180 mm
Spring	Air	Air	Air	Air
Crown	Single	Single	Single	Single
Body Type	Magnesium	Magnesium	Magnesium	Magnesium
Rebound	External dial	External dial	External dial	External dial
Stanchion material	Kashima Coat	Hard anodized	Kashima Coat	Hard anodized
Steer Tube	1.125	1.125	1.125	1.125
Damping	FIT	Open Bath	FIT	Open Bath
DropOut Options	20mm	20mm	20mm	20mm
Compression	Low speed, High speed compression	Internal	Low speed, High speed compression	Internal

Compare to Other

	Fox Racing 2011 36 180 Van FIT RLC	Fox Racing 2011 36 180 Van R
Price	$0	$0
Weight	2700 g	2730 g
Color Options	Black Diamond	Black Diamond
Travel	180 mm	180 mm
Spring	Coil	Coil
Crown	Single	Single
Body Type	Magnesium	Magnesium
Rebound	External dial	External dial
Stanchion material	Kashima Coat	Hard anodized
Steer Tube	1.125	1.125
Damping	FIT	Open Bath
DropOut Options	20mm	20mm
Compression	Low speed, High speed compression	Internal

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Some of the options include (look at each fork for detail)
- Low-speed High-speed compression
- Air spring pressure
- Lock out force adjust
- Travel is adjustable to 100mm in 10mm increments
- Rebound
- Talas 2 Position travel is adjustable down to 100mm in 10mm increments
- 20QR thru axle system, Post style disc brake mounting
- New Kashima stanchion coating

	Fox Racing 2011 36 160 Float FIT RLC	Fox Racing 2011 36 160 Float R	Fox Racing 2011 36 160 Talas FIT RLC	Fox Racing 2011 36 160 Talas R
Price	$0	$0	$0	$0
Weight	2030 g	2050 g	2110 g	2130 g
Color Options	White	White	Black Diamond	Black Diamond
Travel	160 mm	160 mm	160 mm	160 mm
Spring	Air	Air	Air	Air
Crown	Single	Single	Single	Single
Body Type	Magnesium	Magnesium	Magnesium	Magnesium
Rebound	External dialq	External dial	External dial	External dial
Stanchion material	Kashima Coat	Hard anodized	Kashima Coat	Hard anodized
Steer Tube	1.125	1.125	1.125	1.125
Damping	FIT	Open Bath	FIT	Open Bath
DropOut Options	20mm	20mm	20mm	20mm
Compression	Low speed compression	Internal	Low speed compression	Internal

Compare to Other

	Fox Racing 2011 36 160 Van FIT RLC	Fox Racing 2011 36 160 Van R
Price	$0	$0
Weight	2320 g	2340 g
Color Options	Black Diamond	Black Diamond
Travel	160 mm	160 mm
Spring	Coil	Coil
Crown	Single	Single
Body Type	Magnesium	Magnesium
Rebound	Dial	External dial
Stanchion material	Kashima Coat	Hard anodized
Steer Tube	1.125	1.125
Damping	FIT	Open Bath
DropOut Options	15mm	15mm
Compression	Low speed, High speed compression	N/A

Compare to Other

	Fox Racing 2011 40 FIT RC2
Price	$0
Weight	3090 g
Color Options	Black Diamond, White
Travel	203 mm
Spring	Coil
Crown	Dual
Body Type	Magnesium
Rebound	External dial
Stanchion material	Kashima Coat
Steer Tube	1.125
Damping	FIT
DropOut Options	20mm
Compression	Low speed, High speed compression

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Features
- NEW Kashima Coat
- Low-speed compression
- High-speed compression
- Coil spring preload
- Rebound
- Hydraulic bottom-out resistance in damper
- Travel is adjustable down to 6.5 inches in half-inch increments
- 20 mm thru axle system, International Standard disc brake tabs
- Titanium Spring

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245 Comments

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+ 43

BaileyRoberts (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:32)

that new 40 looks rad

+ 17

santacruz-syndicate (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:14)

new ano stansions look sick too

+ 12

RaleighVoid (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:42)

yeh like brown sugar. maybe.

i like the new style lowers (decals and the new castings)

theoneandonlyfreak (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:48)

now thats one sexy fork !

+ 10

BaileyRoberts (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:51)

And can I see a direct boXXer mount on the 40s

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StuHaight (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:53) (Below Threshold) show comment

Why has Fox not yet choosen to build a 180mm single crown fork?

+ 18

nickrace17 (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:57)

they have!!

+ 11

spudlord (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:58)

look at the top there is the 180mm float 36 haha

+ 24

StuHaight (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:16)

Jeez what I would do to remove my sorry ass comment... that's awesome that they got a 180mm version I don't know how I over looked that I just scrolled down right after the video.

collin7 (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:29)

Why doesn't fox use the awesome quick release 20mm through axle on the 40s that they have on the 36s? Maybe because of weight... but that release system is the best I have used! Easier than regular QR with all the beefyness of 20mm.

nunukula (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:02)

I´m glad they didnt use that stupid 15mm axle ...

goosh (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:18)

SICK!!gotta get my hands on one

357media Plus (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:36)

collin7 i think its because people don't usually take there front wheel off there DH bike

hendu (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:49)

those look amazing might just have to pick up a fox for my bank in 2011

suicidedownhiller (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:59)

Finally a 180mm fox!

mtbKELSEY (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:44)

FINALLY! they switched the rebound to the bottom and high/low speed to the top for 40! that makes so much more sense because personally i adjust high and low speed alot more than the rebound...

recklessness (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:45)

Way to spell Talas wrong. TYYYYYYPOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Seksi forks though.

RapidRob (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:57)

YES ! no more bending down/leaning over & unscrewing the cap to adjust compression !

rmesfcmdr9er (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:36)

Props for finally making a 180 mm fork they should have used the 40mm sancions tho

ncrider5 (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:14)

sick how the 180mm fork is now a part of the fox litter. but i still think the 40mm single crown is the beast to feast (totem) Wink

cmorebikes (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:18)

Omg that 40 is going to be amazing!! Better start saving my pennys.

pperini (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:43)

i personaly adjust the rebound a lot more often then the comps..so thats not a good change for me..and im really going to miss that cute little red knob on the top...but sick forks, damm!! 180?! cool))

pperini (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:55)

and if they are having all the trouble to make a whole new 180mm fork, why not making it a lil bigger? something like 36 = 160mm, 40 = 203 and 38 = 180 maybe?..a 36 with 180mm is going to look as thin and as "nor robust" as a rs domain..i mean, of course the fork rocks..no questions asked about the performance! but it probably doesnt look as mean and tough as the totems or 66s..

chochocho (Apr 14, 2010 at 11:59)

...and the forks are free!

freirider (Apr 14, 2010 at 14:40)

pperini: because it costs a hole ton more to manufacture a new size stanction and bushings and lowers and seals and all the other stuff, might as well stick with what they got and keep the prices low as they can.
Es würde echt cool sein, wenn Fox eine 38mm stanction machen würde. Aber zu teuer.

tacobell123 (Apr 14, 2010 at 15:01)

new forks looking nice. hope they are a reasonable price

pperini (Apr 14, 2010 at 15:19)

freirider: but thats exactly what im saying..cuz look closely to the fork..the lowers and stantions are NOT the same as the 36! look at the 160 lower, the axle is at the very bottom of the fork, now look at the 180 36 lower, the internal tube goes past the axle, that means the axle is not at the very bottom, the 180 lower is a lot bigger! and cuz of that its also obvious that the stantions are also a lot bigger, so u can have more 20mm exposed but without compromising the stiffnes..yes ok all of the other parts are propably the same..but i dont think that they are the most expensive to remanufacture...und dein deutsch ist echt gut..ich bin aber kein deutscher, ich wohne nur in d-land..ich komme ursprunglich aus brasilien..machs gut!

north123shore (Apr 14, 2010 at 15:20)

180mm fox fork = Smile

. The day has finally come.

etqmtber (Apr 14, 2010 at 16:44)

I reckon they should use 40 lowers, and some shorter 40 uppers and crown, then they would have a super sick fork and it would be as stiff and strong and the totem. I'm not really a big freeriser but if I was I would definitely take the totem over the 36.

icedemon05lrb (Apr 14, 2010 at 19:10)

NOW WHAT... SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT FOX SHOX!!!! WORLDS BEST FORK!!! I wish I could have my old 40 back.. Hey ain't nothing wrong with a 888 though!!!

mtnbker395 (Apr 14, 2010 at 19:11)

and I JIZZED IN MY PANTS!

NorcoTweek (Apr 14, 2010 at 22:29)

THERE FREE!!!! O.O

icedemon05lrb (Apr 15, 2010 at 17:20)

LMFAO!!! HELL YA!!!

theminsta (Apr 15, 2010 at 20:54)

I love how they never figure out the prices on time... It's as if they think that money grows on trees or something.

icedemon05lrb (Apr 15, 2010 at 21:10)

no its bushes really.. I only see green bushes.. lol

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Pabstinabottle (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:35)

Sweet! fox 36 in a 180mm

jhowlett (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:05)

no van 180mm though Frown

Greenwood102 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:10)

Ino some competition for the totems

domino0 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:42)

surely the float 180 is only RC2 not RLC2 as there is no lockout adjuster in the pictures nor is it mentioned in the description, only the title, the talas 180 is however RLC, but why that RLC and not the float 180 RLC or both RC2 like the 160 forks?

jhowlett (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:05)

it also says in the info that they have travel adjust? cant see a talas winder anywhere

jezzah (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:16)

the 36 talas is a different fork, ie. its 160mm not 180mm. Look at the specs..

EDIT: looked at the video and theres a 140-180 talas.. weird they didn't show it here

jhowlett (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:37)

yeah thats what i though, probably give more info later this week

domino0 (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:37)

by the looks of it, the picture of the talas on this blog, appears to be maybe 2? different version of the talas, one clearluy shows its the 180 one cause the lowers come down further, another shows the 36 one, as the lowers dont come down as far. Fox are realy confusing me now!

rmesfcmdr9er (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:37)

Domino there has never been lockout on long travel forks.....ever

domino0 (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:46)

i know, but not on fox as far as i know, i did confuse myself a lot with this article though :S

creamsoda (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:54)

i'm pretty sure this article got it wrong, they got the float and talas switched up. the talas is the one with 180mm travel that weighs 5.2 pounds, and the float 36 160mm is the one that weighs 4.67 pounds. doesn't make sense the other way around, which is what the article is saying.

jhowlett (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:48)

van is here, totems have no chance now

domino0 (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:53)

i agree this article is soo wrong, it says the 180 forks are RLC but they are clearly RC2 and its only the 160 forks (in this article) that are RLC

bunkey (Apr 14, 2010 at 12:49)

RE: jhowlett, The 180 Van's are right underneith the others.

jhowlett (Apr 14, 2010 at 12:51)

they werent when i posted that comment hence posting another one 2 hours ago

bunkey (Apr 14, 2010 at 14:00)

Ah ok, no worries.

downhillonaharo (Apr 14, 2010 at 19:50)

rmesfcmdr9er
Domino there has never been lockout on long travel forks.....ever
coil totems did.......floodgate, pretty much lockout.

jhowlett
van is here, totems have no chance now

totems for the win. bring on the negative props

rmesfcmdr9er (Apr 14, 2010 at 21:47)

Yah floodgate isent lockout they are two different things only one is for long travel bikes and the other is for short travel marzochi has it too theirs is called mech. preload pretty much they each have there own method for doing the same thing make the fork stiffer or linear lockout is the most efficient way to do it for short travel and no one has a patent on it that's why every one can use it flood gate and mech. preload are patent systems that do the same thing differently for long travel forks

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luis-beri (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:39)

finally!!! 180mm fox fork!!

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deeeight Plus (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:27)

The QR20 system is licensed from Paul Turner, its basically his Tullio design (as RS Psylo's used about 8 years ago) with a different pop-out lever on the axle. Presumably their license sees them pay royalties on each model its used on, which is why only the Fox 36s get them. The 40s are meant for full on DH bikes and really... fast wheel changes aren't needed on a DH bike, but with the 36s which sell more to AM/FR setups... a quick in-out with the wheel speeds up flat tire repair times when you're being attacked by a million mosquitoes or holding up the group ride or something. Personally I don't see why they don't go to PM's for the 40s lowers.

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iamamodel (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:04)

A longer travel 36 - finally the Fox range is complete!

Every year Fox shows their new line-up and I think - Wow! Fox can't get much better than that - and the very next year, every year, they prove me wrong. I may as well just give them my credit card's pin number.

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warriorsxc (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:00)

All of the 40's are internally adjustable...there are spacers that can be moved from the top to the bottom to change the amount of travel. I have 06 40s and it's possible. You just remove the top cap, take out the spring and change where you want them.

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WAKIdesigns (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:25)

I hope that this 36 Talas is finaly the long lost Holy Grail I am waiting for since 6 years! An airsprung fork with a reliable lightweight Travel Adjustment. No one ever made a system that answers these criteria - I hope it's this one!

If they would made Fox36 180 with a reliable travel adjusment range 180-120 I would order it today. I wouldn't care if I would need to take loan, sell a car, TV Laptop. I would buy it straight away! I would also write a petition to CERN laboratory in Geneva to put up there at the entrance a memorial stone with engraved writing: Fox 36 180-120 Talas which changed the biking world forever.

Big props to Fox for refining the stickers, with all the respect to previous versions: but you finaly made something that looks masculine... Former roundish stickers with blue tail were pretty girly...

arczii (Jan 5, 2011 at 1:35)

> An airsprung fork with a reliable lightweight Travel Adjustment. No one ever made a system that answers these criteria - I hope it's >this one!

Nasi góra : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUr9o53LxdM . Dziala i nie psuje się, a konstrukcja bardzo prosta

WAKIdesigns (Jan 5, 2011 at 8:59)

nice!!! a czym sie to od ETA rozni?

arczii (Jan 5, 2011 at 11:51)

eta jest w sprezynowcach a to mozna stosowac w powietrznych z dwoma komorami. Taki 2 step jak u RS lub IT jak u Manitou

WAKIdesigns (Jan 7, 2011 at 1:15)

to to jest jakis cartridge gotowy do kupienia sprezyna pow + zmiana skoku?. Czy ktos sobie po prostu domowa zmiane skoku zrobil do 66 SL?

arczii (Jan 7, 2011 at 4:18)

domowej roboty ale w przeciwienstwie do wynalazkow z RS i manitou dziala i sie nie psuje

WAKIdesigns (Jan 7, 2011 at 10:08)

a sprzedaje to ktos? daloby sie to to do Lyrika wsadzic? Jesli to komplet sprezyna pow + zmiana skoku, to wole dac rodakowi zarobic, zeby rower odchudzic, niz kupowac Foxa Wink

arczii (Jan 9, 2011 at 23:33)

pisz do autora filmu to on jest konstruktorem. Ale raczej musilbys sobie to sobie zrobic

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PauuuuuL (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:40)

2011 Float 36 180 vs 2011 Rockshox Totem .... Hmmmmmm

Greenwood102 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:11)

Yeah i was just thinking that. You know BOS do 180 too? theyre like £1200 haha
In MBUK they said that the BOS ones were better than the TOTEMS

highvoltagefr (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:48)

Yeah but they cost about double to servvice and tune etc

Muttley (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:11)

Rofl, no they dont.

EmteeHayze (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:58)

Oooh MBUK, must be right -.~

PauuuuuL (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:55)

Yeah but you can pick up Totems for £600. new. So not sure why you would want to buy the BOS forks. I mean if i had £1200 to spend then yes they are better , but 2x better. Think not.

Muttley (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:57)

So what, if somebody wants the better product and can afford it, they will pay for it, they clearly arent aimed at people like you.

PauuuuuL (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:41)

Hmmm , Muttley , any need for that comment. Im sure wasnt aimed at me. But still. " People like you " ahha. How low do you want to get.
I really hope the guy you aimed this at is absoultely fu**ing loaded.

EmteeHayze (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:34)

shut up paul.

Muttley (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:35)

No, there is no other way to put it, the BOS N'Dee is aimed at people who are WILLING to spend the money, you are not willing to spend the money, it is therefore not aimed at people like you.

el-shreddo (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:52)

Thing is: Most people riding bikes do this as a hobby and therefore don´t have loads of money to blow on parts. Thus a 100% price increase for, say, a 20-30% better performance doesnt look like a good idea to me. Anyone with a calculator will know that. Let´s hope Fox aims their 180 fork at the mass market ( => totem price levels) and not the few "bling bling" riders that already own umpteen bikes (+ matching BOS forks) and dont know where else to put their money. I love BOS forks - but for average joe they´re just way too expensive.

The new lineup as a whole looks awesome, I love the decals and especially the new coating, let´s hope it really does what they tell us it does...

PauuuuuL (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:53)

Sorry but who involved you Em teeHayze. It clearly wasnt aimed at you. Grow up.
Okay sorry Muttley I appologise if thats what you were getting at.

Muttley (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:06)

no worries paul.

Think about the price for this new 180, look at the price for a top of the range 36 TALAS, its what, 850? All their forks will probably go up by 20-30% due to this bullshit kashima coating, and add another few hundred due to the fact its 20mm longer.

Its going to be a VERY expensive fork,id take the totem if i were you.

PauuuuuL (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:54)

Yeah all very good points , haha so true about the coating , I'd like to see if RS do anything different for 2011. They have their Lyriks 180mm Dual Crowns , which I wouldn't mind a go with. See how they perform in comparison seeing as they are quoted to be around £500-£600 range cheaper than both Totem and Floats.

DARKSTAR63 (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:59)

You all should be grateful there are companies out there that make top notch stuff. It progresses the technology and sport in general. I know not everyone can afford $6000 dollar bikes, I cant either, but the fact they exist makes it possible for that tech to trickel down to us mortals within a couple years. To argue that expensive components should not exist is ludacris. Does it upset you that they make Ferraris even though most of us will never get to drive one????

EmteeHayze (Apr 14, 2010 at 11:00)

The way you didnt understand a simple comment and overreacted on it got me involved. simples

PauuuuuL (Apr 14, 2010 at 11:01)

Its finished now. Leave it.

xpiranhax (Apr 15, 2010 at 10:20)

@pauuuuul...

i thought the only RS dual crowns where the boxxers and the new domains?

PauuuuuL (Apr 15, 2010 at 11:09)

Yeah , sorry about that I now realise it is the domain not the lyrik thanks for the correction. Thats my mistake.

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TomL055 (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:33)

all of them are so dope

wort (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:23) (Below Threshold) show comment

Don't like the allen-head pinch bolts. My little brother overtightened them on my 36 TALAS and cracked the lowers. $300 for new lowers... (Needless to say I like the QR levers much better.)

SSdomination (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:20)

Thats owners mistake though, nothing to do with the fork itself. It tells you not to over tighten them...

bunkey (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:53)

They're called pinch bolts because they should be pinch tight, thats not Fox's fault. A finger and thumb on the short end of the allen key is all thats needed, just make sure you go back and forth between the two untill they're both nipped up properly.

Imo There is no need for QR anything on a downhill bike, except for that Straightline stem of course lol

SSdomination (Apr 14, 2010 at 11:20)

Hahahahaha thats awesome! Almost forgot about that stem thing hahaha

freirider (Apr 14, 2010 at 14:41)

and seat clamp, don't even tell me that you don't change seat height.

bunkey (Apr 14, 2010 at 15:37)

Nopers, I have hope bolt through. I never change my seat height on a ride. Its exactly where it needs to be, and its not as though I'm going to be pedalling up.

freirider (Apr 14, 2010 at 21:52)

That would make sense then. I pedal up as well as on the descent. Don't have many full gravity runs here.

nz-brendan (Apr 15, 2010 at 0:01)

loving the color of the stanchions

Schism (Apr 15, 2010 at 20:30)

FREEERIDE!!!

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sidecar (Apr 21, 2010 at 14:18)

These forks look amazing but in the past I have had problems with my 2007 40's leaking oil around the stanchions every so often. I sent them into fox to get overhauled, 120.00 USD later, they were leaking again after a couple weeks. I got tired of the maintenance and sold them. Does anyone know if this is still the case or if they are more reliable now?

Npacholko (Aug 30, 2010 at 19:40)

I have a 2010 40, and it is by far, the smoothest most reliable fork I have ever ridden.

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yongki (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:58)

New Fox36 180mm will be head to head with RS Totem, Fox is well know for its smoothnes, but the price is so high and not user serviceable will be a handicap.

kovaldesign (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:42)

I doubt the 36 180mm will match the Totems in stiffness, I would not compare these two only on the same travel basis.

riggadon (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:48)

"not user servicable". how?

kinkmister (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:57)

if anything, the 36 180 will be better then the totem

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textbooksonic (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:31)

Is it possible that what they mean by "Talus 2 Position travel is adjustable down to 100mm in 10mm increments" is that travel be preset before you ride but not adjusted on the trail? (...or perhaps a mega typo)

seraph (Apr 14, 2010 at 14:32)

I think they mean internally, much like the older and current line of Fox forks, via shims.

textbooksonic (Apr 14, 2010 at 15:07)

right right right - i think so too.

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riggadon (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:21)

i really like how they put the compression on the top, i hate taking off my HUGE protector cap to adjust the compression on my 40. not to mention all the new forks look so f*cking sick

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french-rider-68 (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:41)

the 40 are not post mount ?

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bigREDAuzz (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:31)

so is there two sets of 180mm fox forks coming out, i mean i seen two sets the
36 180 Float and the
140-180mm talas

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El3ctroplatano (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:40)

SHIT! These changes everything for my build up... Now I need to wait till they come available (2 or 3 months more, f@%&k!!!).

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SHARK555 Plus (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:51)

thats because that one was a prototype with 40 lowers, these are brand new lowers casue there isnt enough travel to go that far.

So stoked for the new 180's, getting them once there availabe

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flikende (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:43)

haha fox is letting their emo side show through

riggadon (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:43)

haha

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Lauti (Apr 17, 2010 at 0:00)

The coating contrasts very nicely with the black-diamond. I like that. What's even better is the above published pricing! That seems very competitive!!!

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ontariodrops (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:03)

fox builds the sickest single crowns on tha block but they will never touch the boxxer on the world cup scene

WAKIdesigns (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:28)

heh, in fact many find Boxxer less stable than 40. Rshoxes used to be plusher but at the same time even latest models dive too easily under braking and in burms. Yes what is the lospeed compresion adjustment for? - its surely for that but then your ride just becomes harsher, at the same time if you really bomb the trails you don't experience it that much.

Both Fox and Marzocchi(being the plushest of all at the same time) offer more stable platform without excessive diving. Just look in the racing vids, that zocchi and fox maintain the certain travel level while Boxxers go up and down like maniacs. I own a Lyrik now and I find it less stable and more willing to dive than both of my former MZ 66rc2x and SL.

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Infiltrator (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:42)

Ok... i'm not a Fox fan... but good god i'm drooling all over my keyboard

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andreexfr (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:51)

On 40s i havent seen interior yet but i bet they have inverted the interior damper so its possible that the fork is now lighter at bottom wich provides more ability to lift the front wheel.

slipalongtrevaskus (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:25)

looks like it. On the mojo website a few weeks back that had an interview with Fabien, and he was running the upside down damper, in a picture. Its also easier to adjust comp on the fly. wonder if bump sensitivity will be increased?

slipalongtrevaskus (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:30)

heres the link http://www.mojo.co.uk/Website2010/html/testday2010.html

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bigREDAuzz (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:55)

Does any one Know how much the 36 180 Float are going to cost.
Are they going to be about the same price as the normale 36 floats cost.

hitarpotar (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:05)

it ain't gonna cost as much as the 160mm version, it's gonna be way more, that's for sure. heads up though, rock shox is working on a replacement for the totem which is just 2,2 kilos.

merrybike Plus (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:25)

shit, i'd even run that on my DJ bike...

bigREDAuzz (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:27)

i have totems right now and i did have 40s and i love the felling of fox forks but i wanted SC

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nightmareterror (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:43)

lol @ anything Fox being girly. It's all good... the internals have never failed on one of these forks/shocks for me. They only seem to make them better everytime.

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armyof1 (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:06)

yea that 40 is so sick. it fells incredible to, a couple of guys from fox have been riding at carlmont.

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JKSR (Apr 14, 2010 at 11:59)

It seems like the top mounted compression knobs would be prone to accidental adjustments messing up your setting unless they are hard to turn. I simple rub up againt your pant leg could turn that knob who knows where. Just saying, it could and most likely will happen. :/ Still want it though, looks nice.

stryke Plus (Apr 14, 2010 at 13:41)

if its anything like older foxes twisting them wont do much anyway

pavementEATER (Apr 14, 2010 at 15:09)

pant leg? really? Have you ever used a fox travel adjust knob? They dont just adjust if the wind blows by ... and how often do you hit the top of your sanctions with anything? ...

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filibeano (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:23)

Wow. 6810g for the fox 40?! That's almost 15 lbs!

radek Mod Plus (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26)

oops that was a typo on my part. It's actually 3090g / 6.81 lbs Thanks for catching that.

filibeano (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:35)

No problem. surprised no one else commented on that.

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fantaman (Apr 15, 2010 at 12:59)

Man those black Fox forks with the Kashima coating are looking amazing Drool

Jobobasaurus (Apr 15, 2010 at 18:24)

do you think they would look good on an 08 riegn X0

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trevormann (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:51)

Does anyone know when these are coming out to buy? So the new 40's are adjustable from 203mm to 160mm?!

jhowlett (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:10)

all 40's are you just put spacers in to reduce the travel

riggadon (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:51)

yes, its been like that forever

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faustuh (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:34)

how the fox 40 is beautiful

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kinkmister (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:18)

those look sooooo clean. definetley wanna get that float 180. thats legit

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Konajron (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:08)

At last Fox fork with 180mm travel! awesome!

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Luseboy (Apr 14, 2010 at 12:18)

woah, sick! it says that all their forks are freeeeee! sweeeet, ima get one of each

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PhoS (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:41)

The 36 - 180 and the Talas are amazing. Probably will end up with a 180 eventually.

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ROL-ANDO (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:13)

It's here 8 inches single crown fox fork .. totaly radd only 3 kilos, how mush the 66 wieght?

kinkmister (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:18)

hella f*ckin heavy

riggadon (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:21)

pretty f*ckin much

Burker (Apr 14, 2010 at 21:42)

the 66 Ti is 2850g, so only slightly heavier than the Van 180. Saying that those extra 150g makes it 'hella f*ckin heavy' is pretty retarded.

riggadon (Apr 15, 2010 at 7:33)

hes probably referring to the older 66's... so pre '08. the new marzocchis are much lighter

kinkmister (Apr 15, 2010 at 7:57)

yea, the older 66s are pretty heavy. fox definetley has their shit figured out when it comes to weight and uber plushness

riggadon (Apr 15, 2010 at 8:49)

apparently the new ones are really light and plush... ill have to feel it to believe it

Burker (Apr 15, 2010 at 9:48)

point taken - yeah, the new ones are much lighter and feel amazing. Mine feels a lot better than the 2 Totems I've had.

kevinthelilbiker (Apr 18, 2010 at 14:11)

Rolando you would be wrong. its 180 mm which would be 7 inches... not 8

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rangemaster Plus (Apr 15, 2010 at 9:55)

when are the decals available from the request form? want to replace an old pair.

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guitarman29 (Apr 15, 2010 at 9:33)

not sure on the paint of the lowers and how they clash with the shinyness of the stickers :S stil look sick tho!

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Altar69 (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:12)

WOW,This is a Porn....And the Stanchions look so cool this way....need one Smile

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seraph (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:01)

I think I need that new 36 Talas for my Nomad C. Gold on black would match the matte carbon with gold pinstriping perfectly.

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molland8 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:33)

There must be a 180 talas offering as well going by the talas top cap in the video at 50 seconds, with 140/180mm travel, where are the photos!!

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Demiourgos (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:15)

IMHO stupid color of that stanchions...

jhowlett (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:16)

they look awesome

riggadon (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:46)

opinions

seraph (Apr 14, 2010 at 12:24)

...are like a*sholes, especially on this site.

riggadon (Apr 14, 2010 at 13:41)

im not sure what you mean by that

seraph (Apr 14, 2010 at 13:53)

Never heard the expression: "opinions are like a*sholes: everyone has one" before?

riggadon (Apr 14, 2010 at 14:06)

no, i thought you were calling me an a*shole or something

seraph (Apr 14, 2010 at 14:27)

Yeah well.

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fanman (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:05)

In the spec list of the 36 Talas I read "Talus".... What means "Talus" or is it a mistake?

hitarpotar (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:23)

yeah, i saw that as well. it's probably a mistake but i'm not sure. however tha whole article is made up of messed up info - it's not very clear what would the different models be. fox needs to release some more info.

fanman (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:26)

Can be a mistake, but I doubted bout that, because the Talas system seems to be changed again? "travel is adjustable down to 120mm in 10mm increments" instead of the 3 step now from 100/130/160.

fanman (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:07)

I'm sure it's a mistake: "Talus 2 Position travel is adjustable down to 100mm in 10mm increments" Uh yeah, two position travel and 10 mm step increments???

seraph (Apr 14, 2010 at 14:36)

Pretty sure it's a typo, since "TALAS" stands for "Travel Adjustable Linear Air Spring."

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vazpinto (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:05)

i am soo going to buy that 180mm to my demo!

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crashin (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:40)

Sick showing from Fox as per usual.

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SimonH182 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:29)

have they got it wrong or is the new 180mm fork adjustable from 180mm travel all the way down to 100mm travel?

iamamodel (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:45)

I think the molland8 below may have shed a little light on this - at 50 seconds they show a fork that is '140-180' but it has a black crown. That white fork up top has no Talas adjuster - I think there is a mix up somewhere.

elzorroinphilly (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:10)

I was confused about that as well, but I suspect the 36 Float 180 will be adjustable w/ internal spacers as the previous year's 160 was.

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mad-hartman (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:42)

OMG!!!!!!!!!!
love the design,and a 180mm FORK,finally!!!!!!!!!!

pball19ac (Apr 14, 2010 at 17:12)

4 years ago, when I worked at a shop, I talked to a guys at Fox about making a 40mm Stantion fork with 180mm of travel. He laughed and said buy a 40 and drop the suspension. Looks like they finally listened. However, I still think they should have made it with 40mm stantions instead of 36mm.

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News (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:54)

Nice forks Razz

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trevormann (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:51)

When are these for sale? I am forsure getting the talas 160mm and 40's

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jamesevison (Apr 20, 2010 at 3:36)

does anyone know how much the talas forks are!!!

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garethjudson (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:09)

new 40s, omg there so nice!!!!

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vtmtb1 (Apr 14, 2010 at 10:31)

Finally! A Fox fork with 180mm of travel!

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speedingant (Apr 14, 2010 at 13:09)

How the hell did they drop 200gms off the 36 range?

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Bgilks132 (Apr 14, 2010 at 18:18)

The new stantions look so sick! Great job Fox!!!!

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freakonomics (Apr 14, 2010 at 20:04)

Those 180 Talas' are gonna look freakin' sick on my Mojo HD!

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nickzero (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:22)

why black????????why????????????????

seraph (Apr 14, 2010 at 14:33)

To match my new Nomad C, of course.

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MBAP (Apr 14, 2010 at 11:05)

but why has the 40 IS brake mounts still?
and all of these for a $ 0 price? tup

haha

rangemaster Plus (Apr 14, 2010 at 11:14)

i will buy 4 for $0 please. lol. i think it's either to be determined or they are special editions maybe. but probably they haven't decided the price.

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cikudh (Apr 14, 2010 at 20:53)

why haven't had 40 with air coil ??

hitarpotar (Apr 15, 2010 at 6:45)

good idea, keeps bugging me for several months, too.

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norcalfoxshoxshredder (Apr 14, 2010 at 19:57)

sick everythings freeee!!!

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mongoosemaniac (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:20)

Dont the athertons have 2011 fox 40's already i saw there new bikes on here the other day looking fine Smile

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Charge262 (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:22)

Travel adjustable 40's? wow, that should be interesting.

riggadon (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:50)

theyve always had travel adjust

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daveswash (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:49)

Loving the new line up! might have purchase the 40's when they come out...

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jamesevison (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:22)

how much r the 180mm froks

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pokalface (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:14)

would never regret when i got these!

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superduck277 (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:45)

holly shit those new forks are a must have

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n0n3Z (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:32)

Awesome ,finally 180mm fork

necronutz (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:45)

i know finally! i'm so glad i didn't buy the totems, i'm gonna wait and see, i'm sure they will be awesome.

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downhiller87 (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:40)

wow! they look very nice! awesome

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mojoloz (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:39)

how much will the new 40 stantions be?

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Maraka12 (Apr 15, 2010 at 8:33)

amazin

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corey-wade (Apr 14, 2010 at 23:17)

price $0

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atxrider (Apr 14, 2010 at 21:33)

no 1.5?

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Coolz-Joolz-12 (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:27)

talas looks nice

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mikebra21 (Apr 14, 2010 at 20:50)

i peed a little

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hypo8521 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:00)

nice logo

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mayhemsport (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:47)

when are they available?

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joseda (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:51)

very nice forks.......

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Sean1708 (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:38)

liking the new QR system, looks awesome and would certainly make it a lot easier to do without sacrificing strength

willsoffe (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:02)

Same as last year. And the year before.

Sean1708 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:26)

really? i thought that was new for next year.

domino0 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:35)

they have moved the allen bolts wwhich determined how tight the clamp on wither side was as if people tightened it too much it would snap, its now enclosed!

xpirimint (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:37)

looks the same to me. Personally I like the RockShox Maxel system best, its very simple and durable and easier to remove. Im guessing its lighter too because its less parts and just 1 clamp but maybe I'm wrong

anyway im glad to see a 180mm single crown from fox, always was wondering when that day would come

domino0 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:40)

oops, i thought i had deleted my post :S as it is virtually the same

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philipstonier (Apr 15, 2010 at 22:07)

id kill for a 2011 40

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SAVAGE-RIDER (Apr 14, 2010 at 1:41)

2011 is looking SWEET!!! Drool

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miamiheat (Apr 14, 2010 at 19:45)

Wow they look so sick

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kbrock (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:36)

Give me that.

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JKSR (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:02)

That new 40 is for me.

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miles-craig (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:08)

I WANT!

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NOLIMIT004 (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:36)

jizzzzzzzzzzz

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fanman (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:26)

That QR system looks very nice. I'm afraid that the Titanium colour disappears?

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randy161 (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:13)

I want that 40

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c2crider (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:07)

best looking forks on the market Drool

shame they're so expensive!

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ahurst95 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:02)

theyre going to be a bob or two

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samanual (Apr 14, 2010 at 4:20)

Oh Talas are looking sooo nice. I smeggy'd my drawers.

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adam-mitchell (Apr 14, 2010 at 12:40)

i'm buying those 40's!!!!! for my evil ;D

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ambrogino (Apr 14, 2010 at 8:23)

OMG!!!!!!!

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dhdeven (Apr 14, 2010 at 15:02)

Good price.

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Daire (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:39)

That new Kashima colour is horrible! bring back Ano Gold!!

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rocko6 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:38)

we want post mount...

cunning-stunt (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:57)

I wonder why the 40s have an IS mount and the other forks have post mount? Is there some advantage for each one on the particular fork?

iamamodel (Apr 14, 2010 at 3:52)

Perhaps with post mount the manufacturer can 'suggest' the size of the rotor, but with I.S., the rider chooses whatever size adapter they want.

kovaldesign (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:37)

Post Mount seems a better fitting to me and it can be run with any disc size just as the IS.
I have no clue why the IS is still on the 40's. Does anyone know the answer?

WAKIdesigns (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:20)

99% of forks with post mount are 160mm rotor compatible and then for bigger rotors you use adaptors. With DH fork it doesnt matter, as you run at least 180mm rotor, so you need an adaptor anyways so it doesnt matter whether this adaptor is a post mount or IS. Plus, take into account that all brake calipers nowadays (thankfuly)have PM so actualy it does not affect the adjustability. One could argue that IS is actualy better as you can just put spacers between the fork mount and the adaptor when your brake positioning adjustment is just not enough (like in mine) so you don't need to drill the caliper socket to enlarge it.

That is my first guess for not using PM on 40, and the second guess as the result of this first one. Look how PM is constructed: you have two small surface contact points coming out of lower leg body whereas in IS you have a long connecting surface, so i believe it is just more construction-wise.

Rasterman Plus (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:31)

IS mount has one huge advantage, since the bolts that hold the caliper on go through the fork and not into it, if you strip the threads you only need a new caliper mount, and not a whole new fork lower. Perhaps this is more likely to happen on downhill forks, where the brake gets smashed by a rock and strips some of the threads. Or maybe its just because creating a new die for the fork lowers would be expensive and there is really no need to switch to post mount.

teagues (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:23)

Stripping the PMs wouldn't be a problem if anyone spent a bit of extra money/effort to cast stainless steel inserts into the posts. Think about it; you're threading steel bolts into aluminum or magnesium threads...which one is going to fail?! (Hint: it's not the cheap steel bolts).

WAKIdesigns (Apr 14, 2010 at 7:50)

teagues - I agree, I am always affraid of damaging threads in my fork. Since Magnesium is so soft it's not a hard thing to do. At the same time cast in saintless stuff is just making aunsuspended mass heavier (you would need some certain amount of magnesium around these stainless bores. Since you also put together two different materials joined in process needing high temperatures that also might create problems. I mean its just not worth the complications to me...

rasterman: great point!

I do believe DH forks should stay with IS. All others have to have PM as people must be able to mount caliper for 160 rotor setup without adaptors.

teagues (Apr 14, 2010 at 12:23)

WAKI, we're thinking along the same lines. Since I'm not a metallurgist, I don't know if there's a more cost-effective/easier way to do it.

It would be a bigger deal if I kept a fork for longer than about six months Smile

It only took me replacing one set of lowers (due to under-torquing, rather than over-torquing) to learn my lesson...we have precision torque wrenches for a reason, right?

For the likes of my Totem, I absolutely agree: I'd still like a 160mm PM that I can fix a 203mm adapter to. The adapter never has to come off once set, no matter how often you pull your caliper off. And adapters are another cheap thing that one can easily afford to damage/strip...and yet, after all the years of adapter IS mounts, I've still to strip one by over-torquing it...

iamamodel (Apr 14, 2010 at 20:45)

Good points all.

Waki and teagues, they could make the post mounts stronger by having a larger magnesium post but with either a helicoil or steel threaded tube. I used to work in a company that made a product whose housing was cast aluminium and we helicoiled everything for extra strength. I can't see why you can't do the same to magnesium.

iamamodel (Apr 14, 2010 at 20:58)

Waki, you talk above about adjustability - you could always run spacers between the hub and the rotor - check out Syntace Disc Shims:

http://www.syntace.com/index.cfm?pid=3&pk=757 />
I've used these so that I can run two different wheelsets without having to adjust the calipers each time. I was worried that there may be more levereage on the bolts, but if people can run Ti bolts and three bolts, then six steel bolts are stronger than needed.

WAKIdesigns (Apr 14, 2010 at 22:59)

Unfortunately for me I have center lock hubs& rotors + i have a problem with calier not reaching enough to the hub side. I would need a 0,5mm spacer between hub and fork which is also impossible for me to do as I use Maxle. So stripping off metal on caliper is the only option for me

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davidstuartkelly (Apr 14, 2010 at 11:30)

mmmmmmmmm, bike porn.

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alexkona (Apr 14, 2010 at 6:42)

i'm wet...

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inim98 (Apr 14, 2010 at 2:26)

they look beast

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