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Karpiel Introduces The New Disco Volante

Posted: Jul 20, 2009

Source: Karpiel

Karpiel has long been a brand associated with the extreme side of mountain biking, thanks to the groundbreaking heroics of Josh Bender and his memorable films, which have now passed into cult history. While the Karpiel Apocalypse still bears its signature design and offers 12 inches of travel for the rare extremist, the new Disco Volante has been designed as the world’s most adjustable race bike.

Karpiel’s new owners, Duncon S.A, and its parent company, investment group TUP S.A, together with frame designer, Jan Karpiel, look forward to the bike’s exciting future as it continues to evolve, both in look and design, for the future of downhill racing.

The 2009 model of the Disco Volante was designed with racing in mind and features a lower bottom bracket height, lower center of gravity and more compact frame design for agility. It is more stable in the corners and over rough, traversing slopes and off-camber turns than its predecessors. Among its many new features, the following offers good examples of how far the frames have come while still retaining their Karpiel style.

Dropouts

Dropouts



The new Disco Volante has a replaceable right side dropout while retaining a fully welded brake side dropout for strength. Also present are recessed heads on the brake mount which increase rigidity and reduce loosening of the brake bolts.

Lower shock mount adjustment

Lower shock mount adjustment



Utilizes two eccentric bolt center barrels. Adjustment of the lower barrels allows for suspension travel adjustment. With the shock mount bolt positioned closer to the front linkage pivot, the suspension is set for maximum travel at 9.5 inches with a 3 inch shock. With the shock mount bolt positioned the furthest away from the front linkage pivot, the suspension is set for the minimum travel, which is 8 inches. In-between positions allow for fine tuning of the amount of suspension travel.

Upper shock mount adjustment

Upper shock mount adjustment


The upper shock mount adjustment utilizes two eccentric bolt center barrels that are much larger (1.5 inch OD) than the lower adjustments. The resulting settings should be: in the long travel, the bike should have a more progressive setting with the upper shock mount bolts closer to the downtube, while in the short travel, a less progressive setting is preferred (shock mount bolt further away from the downtube). The upper shock mount adjustment is also responsible for setting of the initial ride height (bottom bracket height). Also, due to a fairly large eccentric movement of the shock mount bolt, installment of a shorter rear shock (2.75 inch) is possible for those who prefer an overall reduction in suspension travel.

CNC machine work

CNC machine work


Karpiel bikes make use of extensive, high-quality CNC parts throughout. The use of precision machined parts eliminates the distortion and warping of the suspension pick-up points that occurs during welding. It allows for the precision adjustments and exact alignment of all the suspension moving parts.

Head tube reinforcement gussets

Head tube reinforcement gussets


The new forked tongue gussets are new and have never been seen on bikes or motorcycles before. Traditionally, the head tube takes the most amount of impacts, causing fatigue related stress cracks and sometimes ovalizing of the steer cup area. Traditional head tube gussets are like band-aids that cover up the most highly stressed head tube welds with an additional piece of tubing triangle in an attempt to add more material to the vulnerable area and very often result in simply relocating the cracks to the end of the gusset. The fork tongue gusset, on the other hand, completely relieves the stress on the weld around the head tube, thus relocating it down the tubes using the flexible, non-stress causing splines of the forked tongue design. Since the material used is relatively thick, it offers maximum head tube protection. It also completely surrounds both ends of the head tube with additional welds, preventing the possibility of ovalizing.

ATP Linkage system

ATP Linkage system


ATP stands for Adjustable Travel and Progression. It is the only system on the market that allows for adjustment of travel, bottom bracket height and progression settings, independent from one another. As the bikes are being used all over the world, in various levels of technical terrain, including very rough courses and smooth trails with sharp turns, different suspension settings become a useful asset for versatile riders.

Composite padded pivots

Composite padded pivots


As the swingarm is responsible for transferring the most shock force to the suspension elements/mainframe and the rider, the composite bushings are the padding that buffers the vibrations, extending the life of pivot bearings and other suspension components

More information on the Disco Volante is available on the Karpiel website at www.karpiel.com and the bikes can be seen in action with sponsored riders like Wil White and Antonio Levia.
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92 Comments

  • + 23
flag riidekona (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:08)
bomb-proof bikes!!
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flag slacker247 (Jul 21, 2009 at 2:31)
stealth Pimp
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flag huckoveraduck (Jul 21, 2009 at 10:25)
Can't wait to send the 240ft cliff huck to flat I've been eyeing up. Looked a bit sketch on my Specialized P2, hopefully this should do the job.
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flag suicidedownhiller (Jul 21, 2009 at 11:33)
Yayyyyy The New disco is finally out!
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flag p-sir (Jul 21, 2009 at 11:55) (Below Threshold) show comment
ya NO
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flag DHBANSHEE (Jul 21, 2009 at 16:08)
FAIL ^^^^^
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flag mwoodley (Jul 21, 2009 at 20:33)
hmm looks like they might actualy be getting away with the bender images that seem to follow kapriel looks sick
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flag ej2fast (Jul 22, 2009 at 4:27) (Below Threshold) show comment
bender sucks
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flag mwoodley (Jul 22, 2009 at 11:01) (Below Threshold) show comment
very much
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flag whiteboy250 (Jul 22, 2009 at 13:21)
thats good karpiel is uping their game
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flag DHBANSHEE (Jul 23, 2009 at 10:46)
Bender doesnt suck. he gives it his all, if thats not good enough for you guys to watch, then stay away. ill back bender any day. hes a legend.
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flag mehow1993 (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:08)
i like
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flag ziegele (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:09) (Below Threshold) show comment
looks legit
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flag STANistheMAN (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:18)
coolest bike ever! Head tube reinforcement gussets for extra big huck to flats
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flag dbcg (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:18) (Below Threshold) show comment
SOOO trill!
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flag ragdoll (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:19)
damn, that is one sweet machine. well done.
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flag MarcusJ (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:23)
very nice design Wink
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flag piltz (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:29) (Below Threshold) show comment
sucks that it comes with roco and not dhx
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flag saso (Jul 21, 2009 at 12:56)
well u can always change it... id put a vivid on Wink and some boxxers wold look sweet
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flag itrybutstilldontwin (Jul 21, 2009 at 17:29)
ya i would definantly put a vivid on that with some world cups up front
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flag riskyB1985 (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:38)
very nice i'd like to se a fully built one !!
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flag levvii (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:36)
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/3621655/
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flag mtnbkjumper06 (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:39)
i wonder how much it weighs?
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flag andyp1981 (Jul 21, 2009 at 5:15) (Below Threshold) show comment
looking at it about 15lbs
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flag brianhcm1 (Jul 21, 2009 at 6:34)
The frame with shock weighs 10.5 lbs.
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flag levvii (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:22)
Karpiel quotes 4.5kg = 9.9 pounds.
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flag suicidedownhiller (Jul 21, 2009 at 11:34)
My full bike weighs 38.9 lbs. My frame was 9.8 lbs.
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flag duckster118 (Jul 21, 2009 at 18:42) (Below Threshold) show comment
^^^^^^^ good for you, WEIRDO
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flag suicidedownhiller (Jul 21, 2009 at 19:18)
What are you talking about Duckster? I'm Wil White, I was talking about my disco frame...how is that weird??
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flag johnamos (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:51) (Below Threshold) show comment
who the *&^$) needs 12 inch bike???? except for bender ....
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flag Tdavis (Jul 21, 2009 at 0:56)
hence where he said "While the Karpiel Apocalypse still bears its signature design and offers 12 inches of travel for the rare extremist"
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flag charleyboy14 (Jul 21, 2009 at 2:40) (Below Threshold) show comment
yet it says its perfect for racing, i doubt it
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flag pauldh (Jul 21, 2009 at 3:10)
It says the adjustments are from 9.5" to 8"....
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flag WAKIdesigns (Jul 21, 2009 at 4:05)
well it is perfect for racing, however they miss some top DH racer in the team to make the bike "one of the guyzzz" (like V10, Supreme DH, Sunday etc.)
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flag 3lfd3wd (Jul 21, 2009 at 4:18)
It says the APOCALYPSE OFFERS 12 INCHES, this isn't the apocalypse...
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flag DARKSTAR63 (Jul 21, 2009 at 5:12)
Yeah, pay attention dude......
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flag AmirB (Jul 21, 2009 at 1:13)
sick bikes, im glad that they returned
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flag myotherrideisadj (Jul 21, 2009 at 2:12)
nicest looking gussets on the head tube i have ever seen on any bike
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flag insanewayne (Jul 21, 2009 at 5:04) (Below Threshold) show comment
Its the same as a GT ruckus dj's gussets
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flag f0n888 (Jul 21, 2009 at 17:36)
HAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
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flag brycewd (Jul 21, 2009 at 2:23) (Below Threshold) show comment
looks solid and ready to rip. my only complaint would probably be the "Karpiel" logo on the bike, like, they're just so ugly Frown
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flag fleuris (Jul 21, 2009 at 3:00)
What's next... Benders return?
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flag Colin994 (Jul 21, 2009 at 23:12)
lets hope not
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flag yetiboyjay (Jul 21, 2009 at 3:08)
Gash, pretty sure on a really hard landing those eccentric shock mounts could rotate... I can see that being a real pain. Also those 'pinch' fitments (surrounding rotating pieces) the would get worn over time and crack i reckon. You'd better buy a torque wrench if you buy one of these!
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flag brianhcm1 (Jul 21, 2009 at 6:36)
Nope, they don't move. The WAY early Armageddons had problems with slippage, but from 2003-present, no problems & no torque wrench needed.
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flag WAKIdesigns (Jul 21, 2009 at 4:01)
Great bike, but i still hate Duncon though... they'e bloody lucky Karpiel wanted to work with them - as Walter Sobczak says in BL... bunch of f*** amateurs...
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flag sniz (Jul 21, 2009 at 4:05)
i do think karp. bikes are sick ( especailly this one ) but i just find them unattractive.... just a thought.
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flag jesseastl (Jul 21, 2009 at 10:02) (Below Threshold) show comment
i think they are the sickest looking bikes out there
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flag jamisbowtech (Jul 21, 2009 at 15:59)
i think your gonna have trouble finding people to agree with you on that one...
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flag jesseastl (Jul 22, 2009 at 9:44)
whatever..just my opinion..i still think they look cool
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flag walker13 (Jul 21, 2009 at 4:54) (Below Threshold) show comment
Karpiel are for huckers
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flag insanewayne (Jul 21, 2009 at 5:06) (Below Threshold) show comment
nice bike. shame they've used a shock that leaks more than my daughters nappy
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flag DARKSTAR63 (Jul 21, 2009 at 5:15)
Straight lines, low tucked shock, motocross look. I think its gorgeous!!
Two thumbs up for a DH rig that looks like it wont break!!
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flag brianhcm1 (Jul 21, 2009 at 6:41)
I've been riding one for almost a year, if anyone is interested in one or have questions, please feel free to contact me. brian.g@karpiel.com
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flag DARKSTAR63 (Jul 21, 2009 at 6:50)
Looks great Brian, I like the polished frame.
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flag GaryLord (Jul 21, 2009 at 7:09)
if only i had the money for one..............................sigh!
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flag El3ctroplatano (Jul 21, 2009 at 7:14)
Super Heavy Duty!
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flag mtbflow135 (Jul 21, 2009 at 7:30)
I like it alot... damnnnn
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flag DirtVader (Jul 21, 2009 at 7:57)
really epic
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flag jasongsd (Jul 21, 2009 at 8:12)
Better than the last article posted.Definatly more to the point and real. Nice looking bike but nervous about the eccentric shock mounts. I would like to demo one.
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flag DARKSTAR63 (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:43)
I love the idea. I do hope they dont slip. But i assume they have tested them, what great tuneability!
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flag gpmoto (Jul 21, 2009 at 23:00)
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that this article wasn't written by a fifteen year old.
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flag d-bax (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:13)
looks okay, but probably weighs 9 or 10 pounds
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flag levvii (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:18)
Weighs 9.9 pounds.
I would still love to build one up though!!
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flag d-bax (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:22)
yea with some light parts like a boxxer wc and stuff, it could be reasonably light
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flag levvii (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:27)
Wil White (suicidedownhiller) has one at 38.9 pounds with 888's! Which are probably one of the heaviest from high end forks. But then again there is no point putting a breakable fork on an unbreakable frame.
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flag d-bax (Jul 21, 2009 at 12:49) (Below Threshold) show comment
yea. 40's and '10 boxxers are more or less invincible
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flag godfried (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:25)
LIKE IT BUT HOW MUCH?
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flag levvii (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:33)
Saw 3 for US$2,600 each on ebay.
I believe they RRP for US$2,999.
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flag godfried (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:29)
It also reminded me the TURNER DHR DW-Link. Don't you agree?
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flag DARKSTAR63 (Jul 21, 2009 at 9:52)
Yeah, It does a bit.
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flag WAKIdesigns (Jul 21, 2009 at 23:04)
Yeah like all Giant's Maestro frames, La Pierre Dh950, Zumbi F-44, and many more - these companies make similar designs and get them patented (bit stupid for me) but it's only Dave Weagle making so much noise about his uniqueness - good marketing Wink He should keep it lower or get better lawyers like Santa Cruz or Specialized - nobody tries to make something similar to VPP or FSR without paying Wink
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flag bigwill (Jul 21, 2009 at 10:28)
LOVE karpiels! I've had 2, currently got an apocalypse, and they're just the best bikes ever! so nice to look at and even better to ride!
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flag Burker (Jul 21, 2009 at 10:57)
bizarre - the volante and the armageddon are almost identical in design, weight, travel and geometry, except the Armageddon has an adjustable seat. Can anyone tell me why these are two different models?
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flag brianhcm1 (Jul 21, 2009 at 16:48)
You are correct, they are virtually identical with the exception of the seat tower. The Armageddon allows you to fine tune the cockpit.
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flag Burker (Jul 22, 2009 at 15:38)
ok, thanks for the confirmation. Why make two different models instead of just make the adjustable seat mast stock? Is there a major price difference?
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flag brianhcm1 (Jul 22, 2009 at 16:15)
I believe it will be a few hundred dollars different. Again, just allows you more fine tuning ability.
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flag nightmareterror (Jul 21, 2009 at 12:22)
Yeah these look great. I wouldn't mind owning one.
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flag Piotrek441 (Jul 21, 2009 at 13:35)
very good Wink
I like it Smile
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flag FlyingFish (Jul 21, 2009 at 14:06)
mr bungle?
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flag Downhiller-13 (Jul 21, 2009 at 14:46)
very nice, id ride it
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flag ride2liveordie (Jul 21, 2009 at 16:09)
lets see how that holds up the barrel thing on top of shock.. is there any teeths? wont it rotate a little if bottom out hard?
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flag brianhcm1 (Jul 21, 2009 at 16:38)
Like I said above those cams have been in use since 2000 when the first Armageddons came out, very early models did move, however I have not seen or heard of any cams slipping on the newer bikes for many years.
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flag ride2liveordie (Jul 22, 2009 at 8:59)
Ok, just wondering..
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flag wayno05 (Jul 21, 2009 at 17:09)
that bike so much going on in the susp i think it has ADD!
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flag bikeronbowen (Jul 21, 2009 at 18:24)
how come all the pics suck, why can't there be a decent full frame shot from not on an angle
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flag sgsrider (Jul 21, 2009 at 20:30)
it's about time Jan rolled out some new stuff! looks sweet! are the new frames any lighter? the old stuff was heavy as hell.
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flag brianhcm1 (Jul 22, 2009 at 12:27)
The old Disco weighed 9.5 lbs and the old Armageddon weighed 10.9 lbs. Was that considered "heavy as hell"? People have the misconception of Karpiel's being heavy bikes. Any bike can be a heavy bike. Back in the beginning when Karpiel was big with the Armageddon people ran Double wides with 3.0 Gozzolodi's, Profile cranks and a Risse Big Foot or Monster/Super Monster T fork. You put that stuff on any bike and it too will be heavy as hell.
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flag brianhcm1 (Jul 21, 2009 at 20:33)
In my pics is a pre-production Disco.
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flag marin-matt (Jul 22, 2009 at 3:53)
i wonder is bender will use this as a signature bike for sending of the empire state building to flat.
the gussets on the head tube should stand up to that.


huckers for ever
Smile
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flag Addict88 (Jul 22, 2009 at 9:28)
reminds me of a club roost DH8 - one of the best frames ever made for XC
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flag ndinh (Jul 22, 2009 at 11:48)
Seems like everyone from the nineties are returning, still waiting on Hannebrink and Zzyzz forks Smile
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