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2009 Norco Team DH
by brule
Posted: Jun 17, 2009
In the past if you wanted a top spec’d DH race bike you had to go out of your way to build it up with competitive parts that would help you win races. Quite a few companies were making nice complete bikes, but no one was making a no holds barred, spec’d to the max “stock” bike. This meant that you would have to buy the bike that was closest to what you wanted or go buy the frame of your choice and build it up from there. The process of spec’ing your DH race bike is the most costly thing you can do when getting ready for the season. What if you could buy a whole bike that was fully race ready and no spec had been over looked? Just drop the cash, roll out and pin it!
This is where the new Norco Team DH comes into its own. Learn more about this WC DH Spec’d race machine inside…
This is where the new Norco Team DH comes into its own. Learn more about this WC DH Spec’d race machine inside…
The weather in the Valley has been off in a bad way to say the least this winter, with great days in the mountains boarding or skiing, but limited days on the bikes. If you were building up a DH race bike for the season, you had more than enough time to sit inside and dream about riding and put your spec together. Thankfully the snow and most of the rain went away and everyone has been out shralping it up now. We at PB were also waiting on a new race bike, but it was coming complete this time around.
Norco Bike's flagship model, the Team DH rolled into the PB head quarters a little over a month ago now and were we surprised by this "stock" bike. At a glance, nothing about this bike appears to be stock, but that is why it is the flagship in the Norco bikes lineup. At $7250 CDN retail, you know that no spec has been overlooked in assembling this bike and that there better not be any in house components on it.
The rear travel has two options; 199mm and 227mm. While you can also adjust the BB height from 360mm to 372mm, which changes your head angle from 64 degrees to 64.8 degrees. For 2009, you will finally have your choice of 3 different frame sizes to choose from, so that you can find the size that is best for you. We went with a medium sized frame and when it was all assembled, the final product weighed in at 37 pounds, 10 ounces! (With proper DH casing tires) That might just be the lightest production model DH race bike this year!
Making a light bike and spec'ing it so well is one thing, but have a look at the details in the graphics and custom colored parts that are on the Team DH. This bike is polished aluminum with blue, black and subtle red highlights. From the custom anodized blue Alex Supra D rims, the Blue lowers on the RockShox Boxxer WC, the anodized blue rocker link and anodized Wellgo B065 pedals to the matching WTB seat graphics, Top Tube graphics and chain stay graphics. The art department at Norco bikes have been busy!
Matching up graphics:
Trying to compare the 2009 Team DH to last year's Team DH is next to impossible as they are so different in most every way. Visually the only similarity is the forged head tube, the Norco emblem and the FSR link. The price is more this year but so are the race worthy traits that come with the new Team DH.
The 2009 Team DH uses all new Hydro-formed top and down tubes that are radically swooped and bring a very unique look to the bike. Out back the rear triangle has been lightened up a ton and the ROCO WC Air shock has found a new mounting place that greatly lowers the center of gravity. Norco uses the FSR patented suspension linkage and platform that is proven and works amazingly well. The forged 1.5" head tube is strong and light. Since the Team DH won't see any climbing, the interrupted seat mast works well as you can cut your post and leave it there. Cable routing is clean and should stay out of the way if you drape your bike over the tailgate while shuttling. Once you spend time with this bike, you see just how much thought went into it. Another notable frame item is the replaceable hanger and the fact that the bike came with a spare. Product managers take note - Always include a spare hanger with all frames and complete bikes. Thanks Norco!
The suspension duties on the Team DH are being taken care of via a RockShox World Cup Boxxer up front and a Marzocchi ROCO WC Air shock out back. Initially I was surprised to see the mixing of RockShox and Marzocchi suspension on the bike, but when it comes to air sprung options, these two are as good as it gets. The ROCO WC Air shock is obviously the lesser known, but it proved to be easy to set up and on the trail, it ate up all the bumps and hits like its coil sprung counter parts. The rebound and compression adjustments cover a huge spectrum, so you can really dial in your preferences for each course. The low center of gravity shock mounting on the team DH keeps the weight low, while the "open" design of the seat mast really let's the end user get in and adjust the dials on their rear shock. This often feels like an afterthought on various bikes and makes us angry at how tough changes are to make on some bikes, but thankfully someone at Norco thought this through.
While RockShox and Marzocchi are working together to keep the Team DH tracking through the bumps, it's the rest of the specs that keep it pinned wide open at the races. Race Face Atlas FR cranks drive the KMC chain through the SRAM X.O rear derailleur and cassette. The cassette is mounted to DT Swiss' 440 hub (there is a reason why Sam Hill and Greg Minnaar run these - they are fast hubs) and should you need to brake, the Avid Elixir CR brake will put the power down and slow you up in a hurry. The ease of use featured on the Elixir CR brakes makes them the most user friendly brake that we've ever used to date.
Avid Elixir CR Brakes and SRAM X.0 Rear Derailleur:
The contact points (hands, feet, butt as well as tires to terra firma) are well put together too. Kenda's Nevegal tire is well liked by many riders and is one of the few 2.35" tires that is available in a DH casing. Speaking of DH casings, it is a pleasure to see that Norco chose to go this route over what we typically see with companies spec'ing 2.5", single ply casing tires that are as useless on a DH course as single ply toilet paper is when you have an upset stomach. The Kenda Nevegal tires are mounted to custom anodized blue Alex Supra D rims - how cool it that! While one off colors are bad ass looking, it does make it tough to find a replacement should you wreck a rim in a rock garden or a jump gone wrong.
At your hands, you'll find a set of Sunline lock on grips that are affixed to a Sunline V1 bar (29.5 inches wide) and the bar is mounted to a Sunline DM stem. Seeing the direct mount stem and wide bars makes you know that this "stock" bike has it going on and that who ever spec'd it probably races too. The downside to the white grips is that they turn caramel colored once your dirty paws touch them. I would have spec'd a black grip or another color to better match up, but really that's just nit picking.
Your butt should have no complaints about the WTB Silverado saddle either. This has been the saddle of chose for the past few season of the Pinkbike.com DH team. Norco has more pull and got their saddles fully customized to match the top tube graphics - such a sick tie in. I wonder who we can talk to about PB saddles? Ti rails means that this is a light and race ready seat. Just another point where weight was saved on the overall spec.
The Wellgo B065 pedals have also been touched with the ano blue wand to match other key parts on the bike. While the B065 spins freely and is proportionally proper for a nice flat pedal (thin top to bottom and not too wide), the mixture of small and large pins as opposed to set screws is my complaint. We removed a few of the larger pins and felt that the traction improved, but would have been happier with long set screws or long pins that are all the same size at the tip. But damn they look good!
For the past few seasons I have been watching who is willing to step out there and really put an effort into their bike spec and who was holding back with an alright parts offering on their frame. The Norco Team DH is a factory as they come:
Enough information already, here is the Team DH in action:
Dexter Robinson on his Norco Team DH (film by Faultline Media):
Eric Pauwels in action on the 2009 Norco Team DH, photos by Adrian Marcoux:
To learn more about the Norco Team DH and other Norco bikes, please visit their web site at Norco.com or check them out here in the Product section of Pinkbike.
Happy Trails,
Ty
Norco Bike's flagship model, the Team DH rolled into the PB head quarters a little over a month ago now and were we surprised by this "stock" bike. At a glance, nothing about this bike appears to be stock, but that is why it is the flagship in the Norco bikes lineup. At $7250 CDN retail, you know that no spec has been overlooked in assembling this bike and that there better not be any in house components on it.
The rear travel has two options; 199mm and 227mm. While you can also adjust the BB height from 360mm to 372mm, which changes your head angle from 64 degrees to 64.8 degrees. For 2009, you will finally have your choice of 3 different frame sizes to choose from, so that you can find the size that is best for you. We went with a medium sized frame and when it was all assembled, the final product weighed in at 37 pounds, 10 ounces! (With proper DH casing tires) That might just be the lightest production model DH race bike this year!
Making a light bike and spec'ing it so well is one thing, but have a look at the details in the graphics and custom colored parts that are on the Team DH. This bike is polished aluminum with blue, black and subtle red highlights. From the custom anodized blue Alex Supra D rims, the Blue lowers on the RockShox Boxxer WC, the anodized blue rocker link and anodized Wellgo B065 pedals to the matching WTB seat graphics, Top Tube graphics and chain stay graphics. The art department at Norco bikes have been busy!
Trying to compare the 2009 Team DH to last year's Team DH is next to impossible as they are so different in most every way. Visually the only similarity is the forged head tube, the Norco emblem and the FSR link. The price is more this year but so are the race worthy traits that come with the new Team DH.
The 2009 Team DH uses all new Hydro-formed top and down tubes that are radically swooped and bring a very unique look to the bike. Out back the rear triangle has been lightened up a ton and the ROCO WC Air shock has found a new mounting place that greatly lowers the center of gravity. Norco uses the FSR patented suspension linkage and platform that is proven and works amazingly well. The forged 1.5" head tube is strong and light. Since the Team DH won't see any climbing, the interrupted seat mast works well as you can cut your post and leave it there. Cable routing is clean and should stay out of the way if you drape your bike over the tailgate while shuttling. Once you spend time with this bike, you see just how much thought went into it. Another notable frame item is the replaceable hanger and the fact that the bike came with a spare. Product managers take note - Always include a spare hanger with all frames and complete bikes. Thanks Norco!
The suspension duties on the Team DH are being taken care of via a RockShox World Cup Boxxer up front and a Marzocchi ROCO WC Air shock out back. Initially I was surprised to see the mixing of RockShox and Marzocchi suspension on the bike, but when it comes to air sprung options, these two are as good as it gets. The ROCO WC Air shock is obviously the lesser known, but it proved to be easy to set up and on the trail, it ate up all the bumps and hits like its coil sprung counter parts. The rebound and compression adjustments cover a huge spectrum, so you can really dial in your preferences for each course. The low center of gravity shock mounting on the team DH keeps the weight low, while the "open" design of the seat mast really let's the end user get in and adjust the dials on their rear shock. This often feels like an afterthought on various bikes and makes us angry at how tough changes are to make on some bikes, but thankfully someone at Norco thought this through.
While RockShox and Marzocchi are working together to keep the Team DH tracking through the bumps, it's the rest of the specs that keep it pinned wide open at the races. Race Face Atlas FR cranks drive the KMC chain through the SRAM X.O rear derailleur and cassette. The cassette is mounted to DT Swiss' 440 hub (there is a reason why Sam Hill and Greg Minnaar run these - they are fast hubs) and should you need to brake, the Avid Elixir CR brake will put the power down and slow you up in a hurry. The ease of use featured on the Elixir CR brakes makes them the most user friendly brake that we've ever used to date.
The contact points (hands, feet, butt as well as tires to terra firma) are well put together too. Kenda's Nevegal tire is well liked by many riders and is one of the few 2.35" tires that is available in a DH casing. Speaking of DH casings, it is a pleasure to see that Norco chose to go this route over what we typically see with companies spec'ing 2.5", single ply casing tires that are as useless on a DH course as single ply toilet paper is when you have an upset stomach. The Kenda Nevegal tires are mounted to custom anodized blue Alex Supra D rims - how cool it that! While one off colors are bad ass looking, it does make it tough to find a replacement should you wreck a rim in a rock garden or a jump gone wrong.
At your hands, you'll find a set of Sunline lock on grips that are affixed to a Sunline V1 bar (29.5 inches wide) and the bar is mounted to a Sunline DM stem. Seeing the direct mount stem and wide bars makes you know that this "stock" bike has it going on and that who ever spec'd it probably races too. The downside to the white grips is that they turn caramel colored once your dirty paws touch them. I would have spec'd a black grip or another color to better match up, but really that's just nit picking.
Your butt should have no complaints about the WTB Silverado saddle either. This has been the saddle of chose for the past few season of the Pinkbike.com DH team. Norco has more pull and got their saddles fully customized to match the top tube graphics - such a sick tie in. I wonder who we can talk to about PB saddles? Ti rails means that this is a light and race ready seat. Just another point where weight was saved on the overall spec.
The Wellgo B065 pedals have also been touched with the ano blue wand to match other key parts on the bike. While the B065 spins freely and is proportionally proper for a nice flat pedal (thin top to bottom and not too wide), the mixture of small and large pins as opposed to set screws is my complaint. We removed a few of the larger pins and felt that the traction improved, but would have been happier with long set screws or long pins that are all the same size at the tip. But damn they look good!
For the past few seasons I have been watching who is willing to step out there and really put an effort into their bike spec and who was holding back with an alright parts offering on their frame. The Norco Team DH is a factory as they come:
| Specifications | ||
| Price | $7250 | |
| Travel | 199mm-227mm | |
| Rear Shock | Marzocch i World Cup w/ carbon air can, 9.5" x 3" | |
| Fork | RockShox World Cup | |
| Headset | Sunline 1.5" Reducer integrated | |
| Cassette | Sram DH PG-970, 9 speed, 11-26 | |
| Crankarms | RaceFace Atlas FR 170mm | |
| Chainguide | E-Thirteen LG1 | |
| Bottom Bracket | Shimano Saint 68 mm | |
| Pedals | CNC alloy, sealed bearing, blue anodized, steel pins | |
| Chain | KMC Super Light CP silver 9 speed | |
| Rear Derailleur | Sram X-0, 9 spd, short cage | |
| Shifter Pods | Sram X-0 trigger, 9 speed rear | |
| Handlebar | Sunline V-1 711 mm sm / 745 mm m/l, 19 mm rise, 31.8mm | |
| Stem | Sunline direct mount for Boxxer, 31.8mm, 50mm extension | |
| Grips | Sunline lock on grip., white / grey | |
| Brakes | Sram Elixer CR, 8” rotor | |
| Hubs | DT 440, 150 x 12mm, 9 spd, sealed bearings | |
| Spokes | DT Swiss Super Comp stainless black 2.0 / 1.7 / 1.8 | |
| Rim | Alex Supra D welded, 32 hole anodized blue | |
| Tires | Kenda Nevegal 26 x 2.35, Stick E rubber, CAP casing | |
| Seat | WTB Silverado custom cover, titanium rail, white base | |
| Seatpost | Truvativ Team post double bolt, 27.2 mm, polish silver | |
Dexter Robinson on his Norco Team DH (film by Faultline Media):
Eric Pauwels in action on the 2009 Norco Team DH, photos by Adrian Marcoux:
To learn more about the Norco Team DH and other Norco bikes, please visit their web site at Norco.com or check them out here in the Product section of Pinkbike.
Happy Trails,
Ty
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stinkybigd
(Jun 22, 2009 at 0:23)
one of the most solid builds ever
i agree too, the frame design is gross, however the components build is spectacular!!! except for the ROCO
these things are ridiculous when it comes to how quiet they are too. Basically no chain slap what so ever
well I personally think it looks like a womens bike just because of all the curves but it's growing on me and I'm starting to like it more than I did
i prefer it to the old shape. ive got a bendy norco six and very happy with it. had an old shape a-line aswell and i loved that old beasty!
not a big fan of Norco bikes but 37lbs is impressive! i wonder how it rides... 68mm BB with 150mm hub?? that's really weird...
yeah it could've been lighter though. SDG seat & post, gamut p30 chainguide, and a different road cassette not the 970DH. I'm too lazy to really notice all the rest of the could-have-been-lighter stuff.
Love the curves, industrial looking frames like the old one have their place, but this bike looks so much faster and lighter. Low and slack like a good DH bike should be, with just enough anodizing to be old-school classy. I like it a lot.
pinkbike needs more people like you, not hating on new desings
and i totally agree with you, it looks and i bet it rides amazing
Stress doesn't like to go around corners, so when you make curvy bits you need more metal to make the part strong enough than if you used a straight tube. As modern art, well, it's kinda ugly, and as a light bike frame it's more than questionable.
trust me, i was able to take one of these front triangles and test out how much abuse it would take, and it takes allot of stress.
So your an engineer or fabricator and did some strength and fatigue tests? Or you mashed it through a rock garden?
not an engineer, but ive rode the shit outta mine plus a few tests while i had some free time at my shop. they're light and strong the only thing that is a potential breaking point is the one's they recalled and the reason was because of the fancy headtubes having too many welds on them and they've eliminated this problem with this bike.
Its funny cole, because it did break. Stupid recalled shore. The 2009 Team DH frame has been tested and prototyped to the most extreme settings. The boys at norco took all positive and negative feedback from the recalled frames, and any frames that were broken, fixed them and made this thing of beauty. Jonnydh, you have no idea what your talking about. You probably had a friend that BB case a gap and broke a frame, thus you think norcos blow. In reality, you have never had a Team DH so you have no right to say this bike sucks. Smarten up.
anyways bash it all you like if it makes you feel better, but have you ever ridden one? Have you ever ridden one untill the breaking point? So stress doesn't like corners then why is my bike feeling better then ever, cause there was a ton of corners on the trials i've been riding.
well you could always give norco a shout im sure they would love to here your input at creating a better dh bike with all your years of experience.
It has been tested? That's funny b/c their factory team DH racers (fionn griffiths and hans lambert) weren't riding it before this year. Maybe their soft engineers rode them... very extreme testing. lol
theres other testing then that with machines that test the amount of stress the frame that is at there main office/warehouse in poco.
buahaha positive feedback from the recalled frames owners
U know i think it handles well, and its really a good weld up there its just that it breaks sometimes u know, I dont know why 
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That's about 5100EUR....not really cheep...but it would be more expensive to custome build a bike like that, so I guess it's okay.
now that i checked the specs closely i think is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overpriced. don't get me wrong, it's a nice bike but that is to much!
I had a Norco A-line a few years back... Solid Bikes.... The only thing i do not like about this bike is the top tube Design, but I'm willing to bet that after riding it i will get over it.....
Awesome Build!
Awesome Build!
I didn't think it was possible to make a $7250 bike look "cheap" but they pulled it off. Frame and colors are just tacky.
I had it down to the Norco Team DH or the Trek Session 88. Sorry Norco you lost. I love the spec on the team dh but I just don't like the down tube and the Session was a smoother ride.
session 88 frame is supposidly very weak and when you go through a gravel section and a rock flys up and hits your down tube it gets a dent in it so in my opinion nice lite bike but very weak frame
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I like the design and look of the bike, but I don't like how much a good bike like this costs. Streetbike and dirtbikes are roughly the same price...
I have been riding this bike for two months now and I love it. Feels great through the corners, nice and stable in the air. The suspension works great together when its tuned properly. I will agree on the comment about the grips. They have turned a nasty grey/ brown color and even after a wash you can still see the dirt. I love the brakes, they are one of my favorite things on the bike. They felt great from day one. Plenty of stopping power and are easy to tune. I switch between mallet 3's and the wellgos and I have no complains with the wellgos at all, they have decent grip, look sexy and have held up to a beating. I would recommend this to anyone out there who is considering picking one up.
Back up your statement. Look at the parts and tell me a better bike with the same parts for less - not really a true statement now is it? At Arduum this weekend I think I counted 5 or 6 of these race bikes and everyone of the owners were pumped on the new bikes.
Thank you, most people just shoot this bike down on how it looks but I can guarantee that most of the people who have commented on this article have never even sat down on this bike let alone ride it. I've had mine for a few weeks now and I have no complaints. It corners great, it seams to love to stay on the ground and suck every bump or root up like nothing.
when the two pictures of this years and last years are next to each other, i think i like the 09 better. it just looks alot lighter and faster. it makes the 08 look really old.
that bike is so sick. i demoed one at Seaotter and they pedal so nice, unlike the Sunday. the only part i don't like about it is the air shock, it may be liter but i just feel better on a coil.
That bike will break. Great strategy, skimp on the metal to make it light and but lots of curvy bits in. Brilliant engineering. It might work fine for a little while... but is that really good enough? Also it's kinda ugly lookin'. Fail...
your not one of the people that test the bike frames at norco so why should you now its a weak frame? and have you riden one? don't think so. and do you think that norco would realy make a crap frame becuase they are a realy good company that's reliable and very good to buy from so why would they ruin there company by making shit bikes, that's not what norco is all about
i dont really know much about bikes coz im new to the sport but that looks freakin awesome dude! defo looks the business
Well, at first Im gonna say i wasnt sure about this bike. But when nyterider got his in a couple weeks ago and I helped him build it up, I knew this bike was gonna be sick. I took it for a spin and immediatly felt that this bike could handle anything you threw at it. I do think this bike is sick, but I must say its no Session 88. The chrome of this Team DH catches anyones eye and truly looks great in person. Nyterider and I have pushed this bike to the limits this past weekend and he has loved it. Any one who puts this bike down and hasnt riden it has no right because your opinion will change as soon as you start to pedal it. Before you decide to say this bike "sucks", do you research.
I didnt quite like this bike until i got to ride one, then i F'in loved it. It unique in its own way and this year Norco showed up to the plate. Good work.
yea it has a really nice spec and build and everything.
.. but
its still 7500 for a NORCO i'll take a SC or Intense thanks.
.. but
its still 7500 for a NORCO i'll take a SC or Intense thanks.
I mean, who would honestly sell a Team DH at retail price. any smart bike shop owner/saleman would cut anyone a deal on a bike like this when someone is willing to drop that kind of cash on this bike. I would honestly sell this bike, depending on the cost, for 6000 to the right customer. Now that sounds like a good deal.
Mr mars.... Exactly. Norco could put the very best parts on a bike and they have for past few years... but when it is all said and done.. it's still a norco.... that cloud that floats over the brand name is something I don't know if they will ever be able to change.... mongoose , gt , diamond back and even the defunct iron horse have had the same problems. This is just never going to be the classic that the sunday was and is.
I understand they curved the lower tube in order to make room for the shock... but why the hell is that top tube so curved? a strait line between 2 points is shorter than a curved one right? so a strait top tube would make the bike lighter...cum on Norco is that simple.Cut the futuristic design bullshit and make the bikes like u used to... I ride a 2004 A line and I don't think I'd trade it for this shiny pice of shit.
Oh guyz, and remember back in the dayz when marzzocchi had all thoes sweet working oil and spring forks?
Why are all the new once working so crapy? Is it maybe Taiwan's fault? No, it must be all that super outtaspace technology they put inside!
So my question is: Why does a company make such good products for some years and then they start making bad once! What's next, plastic bikes?
Oh guyz, and remember back in the dayz when marzzocchi had all thoes sweet working oil and spring forks?
Why are all the new once working so crapy? Is it maybe Taiwan's fault? No, it must be all that super outtaspace technology they put inside!
So my question is: Why does a company make such good products for some years and then they start making bad once! What's next, plastic bikes?
i think its a sick looking frame,no one likes it just cause theres never been anything like it really.
i personally prefer the frame and look of my o7 team dh but at only 37 pounds id be willing to sacrafice looks for the lighter weifgt
i got one of these bad boys and its one of the best race bikes ever! if you were blind and rode it compared to any other world cup dh bike you would be amazed!
only drawbacks are 1-the welgo pedals have a small platform and are a little hard to stay on through rough stuff, 2-the custom blue paint on those sexy ass forks gets stress cracks near the arch from the "boxxer flex", and lastly the welded alexrims crack at the welds... i was pretty pissed off about that!
only drawbacks are 1-the welgo pedals have a small platform and are a little hard to stay on through rough stuff, 2-the custom blue paint on those sexy ass forks gets stress cracks near the arch from the "boxxer flex", and lastly the welded alexrims crack at the welds... i was pretty pissed off about that!
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very impresive weight but seeing how you arn't realy going up any hills on a DH bike then the 45 pound bikes dont realy concern me the place where this bike would probably break is near the welds anyhow seing how thts were all my bike have broken if they simply add more metal were the welds are i think this would be a much better built DH bike that is still sub 40 pounds
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/3831209/
Now is it clear for all what i just said here a few posts higher?
Now is it clear for all what i just said here a few posts higher?
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