Sea Otter - Cannondale and Chris Van Dine

yea right dude, ive never heard anything bad about the Chase frame. I wish they made a framesize that fit me. That's about the only bad thing i can say about it.

i have many a bad thing about the chase.....
not so much it's ride quality but it's build quality

really??? 1.5 headtube? beefy ass frame construction... I think anyone who rides a Chase and complains about it's quality either owns a defected frame or has no finess on a hardtail. My buddy Frank is a diesel ass dude and owns his own personal training gym... I doubt he'd ride any other hardtail than a Chase... his whole ride is all Diablous, AtomLab Pimp wheels, basically the strongest $hit that was out when he built his bike up... I know I'm rambling but basically, if you have any kind of style on a bike then u cant complain about the Chase frame... If you are a sketchy/balls-2-the-walls kind of rider than maybe you break a few frames but you can't complain if thats how you choose to ride

Cannondale are by no means best known for their jump frames - try asking anyone who owned a Rush or Prophet with the mk.1 hotbox swingarm, or maybe a carbon Lefty from 2006-2007. Or go back a little further and find some of the people who lost the head-tubes off their Ravens. To be fair to Cann. the Scalpel and Taurine XC bikes are just amazing, but reliability wise i don't think they've really made a name for themselves.

my 07 chase is f*cking amazing! i had REALY bad full speed crash couple of months ago,into the back of a landing of a 20ft set due to a last split second panic cos some kid on a bmx had nearly killed himself an was laying on the landing.smashed the peak of my helmet.after i got up an dusted myself down i inspected my bike expecting to find bent forks or a pretzled front wheel or a cracked head tube...NOTHING!! the bike took it i can personaly testify that cannondales are strong bikes,strong as any other
Ive seen enough broken bikes to know that these people that say crack'n'fail are probably just inexperienced riders

I still have nothing to say about the Chase frame or the Chase complete

*nothing BAD to say, that is

and nojzilla, I'd still be cautious riding a bike that ate a spill like that lol. Crashes like that can really weaken the bike's integrity... the damage may not be obvious

i had a chase
i cracked a chase
i have called a chase a crack'n'fail once or twice?
do you think i am a unexperienced rider?

i love my judge, and i loved my gemini but i was really disappointed in my chase.

what did you do to crack it? did Cannondale not send u a new replacement?

and why do we automatically get positive props with every comment now???

no idea what i did.
as i was pushing out for my first session of the holidays i just looked down and saw the crack on the chainstay.
they did send me a new one but it took poes long.
i brought a mob in the meanwhile.
best decision ever!
my mob is amazing.

well yea, Mobs are in a whole nother scategory so you cant really compare to a Chase.. But anyway, if Cannondale made a Chase for my bigass I'd push some serious street on that in a heartbeat... but hellyea man, if you're shredding a Mob, that's just a whole seperate sport lol

dbcg thanx for the warning but,seriously,i gave the whole bike a thourogh strip an check,headtube steerer tube h,set cups,chain/seat stays strecth marks in the paint ect ect ect.ive worked in bike shops as a mech an been around metal fabrication my whole working life to know what to look for BUT!!!, i know one day my bike will go to the big trail park in the sky LOL its done a couple of hard seasons so i will probably retire it at the end of this year this is kinda what i meant by inexperienced riders,these young kids that ride the hell out of thier bikes an then get all pissy when they break.like i said i've seen enough broken bikes to know ALL bikes will one day shit the bed.ALL brands ALL meterials
"i just like,rode off a curb an the stay poped.can i have a refund " LOL
candy muffin sorry if i offended but,if you like your other dales then how can you say crack'n'fail cos you broke the chase? have you never seen any other brand break?,,, especialy jump bikes?

i said i have called a CHASE a crack'n'fail...
gota look at the specifics man
no offence taken.

my chase only lasted like 3/4 months befpore i cracked it.
been riding my mob longer and harder and not even a peep out of it.

oh, in this country, mob is cheaper than a chase if you go to the right places.
and i'm not quite sure if i'm "shredding" my mob.
i feel as if i need to step up to it some more.

wooord... an old friend of mine had an entry-level IronHorse Maverick XC full-sus bike he use to use for street/FR lol he bombed a BIG 8 stair on it and it bottomed out but he rode away from it w/o a scratch... then like a week later he rode off a 10" curb and his bike snapped in half LOL. I've had a lot of fragile bikes in the past but I just learned to adapt my riding so that they wouldn't fall apart on me in a few days. So, unless Cannondale is seriously producing horrible defected frames, I don't have anything bad to say about them. Just don't buy em if you don't like em

i think when comes to jump/street bikes steel is the way to go for the reliability.i race 4X as well as dirt jump wich is why i went for the chase

idk, it really depends... steel can get heavy real quick and a lot of people think its TOO stiff... Evil and Duncon make some sick aluminum HTs... I'd love to have both aluminum AND steel frame bikes lol

I've had no issues with my cannondale XC frame (When I got the bike, I rode XC, now not so much) other than it being a bit long (my fault). I've cased many, many jumps (Nothing huge, but I'm not talking about 3 or 4 foot jumps, I'm talking thinks like 8 foot or larger tables or DJs).

A major reason why cannondales are dubbed "crack and fails" are because they sand their welds, making them weaker and more susceptible to crack and break. This is where the majority of cannondale frames break.

Using a single pivot design won't violate any patents but the "slightly different placement" of the drop-out pivot changes how the suspension works drastically. Not saying one is better than the other but putting the pivot behind and above the drop-out like that makes for a totally different wheelpath.

i guess the pivot isn't behind, but it is above the dropout... which doesn't matter, if the pivot is on the seatstay it's a single pivot.

if something works,,,why change it

kore has had 800mm flat bars for quite some time.

Yeah, but as we all know, Kore sucks a$$ :-)

Check the geo. Not long at all - 16.7" - typical (1/2" shorter than a Giant Reign)for a f/s with that travel. You think it looks flexy but it is crazy stiff. If you side load the cranks it is stiffer than a lot of hardtails.

stiffer than a lot of hardtails? c'mon now.. and he said seatstay not chainstay.